# Leading with AI: Insights from Ocean Road Primary School with Dean Finlay and Shane Liackman Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/trailblazing-schools-with-trudy-graham-7696376/leading-with-ai-insights-from-ocean-road-primary-school-with-dean-finlay-and-shane-liackman Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/trailblazing-schools-with-trudy-graham-7696376/leading-with-ai-insights-from-ocean-road-primary-school-with-dean-finlay-and-shane-liackman.md Podcast: [Trailblazing Schools with Trudy Graham](https://stenobird.com/podcast/trailblazing-schools-with-trudy-graham-7696376) Published: 2026-02-24T14:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/1fa402c9bace3eb012c6a21d2869374c3223770e1fb13e88aaaa2ad71842765a/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIzYzc1YTBiNy02ZDRhLTRjOWMtYTZhYi1jYjM5MTAwNzg1NTMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwYzAzMmM2Mi04MjVmLTQ3MWItYTNlOC0yMDE5ZjU4MTUxODIiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTg1MmIzZWQzZWM4NTc0NzZlZTFlYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk5ZDg3ZmVmY2I0MWVjN2JlMDAyNTNkL3RydWR5LWdyYWhhbXMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMi0yNF9fMTItMTQtNi5tcDMifQ==.mp3 Audio file: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/1fa402c9bace3eb012c6a21d2869374c3223770e1fb13e88aaaa2ad71842765a/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIzYzc1YTBiNy02ZDRhLTRjOWMtYTZhYi1jYjM5MTAwNzg1NTMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwYzAzMmM2Mi04MjVmLTQ3MWItYTNlOC0yMDE5ZjU4MTUxODIiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTg1MmIzZWQzZWM4NTc0NzZlZTFlYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk5ZDg3ZmVmY2I0MWVjN2JlMDAyNTNkL3RydWR5LWdyYWhhbXMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMi0yNF9fMTItMTQtNi5tcDMifQ==.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/trailblazing-schools-with-trudy-graham-7696376/episodes/leading-with-ai-insights-from-ocean-road-primary-school-with-dean-finlay-and-shane-liackman Duration seconds: 2050 ## Resource In this episode of the Trailblazing Schools podcast, Trudy Graham speaks with Dean Finlay and Shane Liackman from Ocean Road Primary School about their innovative journey into AI in education. They discuss the context of their school, and how they are building a culture of shared learning and collaboration. The conversation highlights the development of AI policies, practical applications of AI in leadership, and the transformative impact of AI on teaching and learning. Dean and Shane share their insights on overcoming challenges, embracing opportunities, and the positive changes AI has brought to their school community. Resources: Get your copy of AI in Action: Field Notes from School Leaders. It's free, practical, and designed to prompt your own next step. Download today at trailblazingschools.com/fieldnotes If this conversation resonated and you're exploring how to strengthen leadership in your school network or system, visit trudygraham.com.au/connect to explore working together. Credits The Trailblazing Schools Podcast is hosted by Trudy Graham - https://www.trudygraham.com.au/ This podcast is edited and produced by Ellen Ronalds Keene from PERK Digital - https://perkdigital.com.au/ The theme music is Dusty Road by Indiebox Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Ocean Road Primary School's AI Journey 04:25 Core Messages on Leadership and Trailblazing 07:10 Understanding the School Context and AI Implementation 09:39 Building a Culture of Shared Learning 12:25 Developing AI Policies and Guidelines 15:43 Practical Applications of AI in Leadership 18:34 Overcoming Challenges and Embracing Opportunities 21:18 Reflections on Leadership Pre and Post AI 24:34 Final Thoughts and Recommendations ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/trailblazing-schools-with-trudy-graham-7696376/episodes/leading-with-ai-insights-from-ocean-road-primary-school-with-dean-finlay-and-shane-liackman/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/trailblazing-schools-with-trudy-graham-7696376/leading-with-ai-insights-from-ocean-road-primary-school-with-dean-finlay-and-shane-liackman.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.