# 77: Is AOC the Next Bernie

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Podcast: [Trailblaze 2028](https://stenobird.com/podcast/trailblaze-2028-7022119)
Published: 2026-05-05T17:53:07+00:00
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## Resource

Jamal Simmons, Matt Butler, and Jesse Lehrich explore the landscape of potential 2028 Democratic candidates, key political strategies, and the importance of brand and fight in campaigns. They analyze emerging stars like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, prominent governors, and the broader ideological battles shaping the party’s future. Main topics include: The presidential lane: Who’s running and who might? The influence of Bernie Sanders’ infrastructure on future candidates The significance of electability, brand recognition, and ideological positioning The impact of party credibility, campaign fighting style, and policy messaging Up-and-coming voices and potential future stars like Tallarico and Beshear The role of party leadership, including discussions around the DNC chair Campaign strategies: campaigning style, issue focus, and geographic outreach The importance of authenticity, star power, and brand in modern politics

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