# How it all began

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Podcast: [Trade Life by Point Load Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/trade-life-by-point-load-media-7601144)
Published: 2025-11-25T16:56:37+00:00
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## Resource

Continue the conversation in the dedicated episode forum on Projekt Network at: https://projektnetwork.com/views/forum Summary In the inaugural episode of The Trade Life podcast, Ian MacFayden and Aaron Miller share their journey in the trades, discussing the challenges and realities of starting and running a construction business. They emphasize the importance of open conversations, mentorship, and community within the trades, while also outlining future podcast topics that will delve deeper into various aspects of the industry. In this conversation, Ian MacFayden and Aaron discuss their journey in the construction and renovation industry, starting from their first house flip to building a successful company. They share insights on the challenges they faced, the importance of mentorship, the hustle of balancing work and renovation, and the lessons learned from mistakes. They emphasize the significance of building a strong team, financial management, and differentiating themselves in the market through building science and green practices.

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