# “It Became Toxic.” — Kathie Lee Gifford on Why She Walked Away

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Podcast: [Tomi Lahren is Fearless](https://stenobird.com/podcast/tomi-lahren-is-fearless-5498858)
Published: 2026-03-09T21:13:00+00:00
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## Resource

Kathie Lee Gifford joins Tomi Lahren for a fearless conversation on faith, forgiveness, cancel culture, grief, prayer, and the biblical inspiration behind Nero and Paul. From getting kicked out of Sunday school at 10 to praying for Howard Stern for 30 years, Kathie Lee opens up about why Jesus never canceled anyone, how she learned to live free from other people’s opinions, why joy runs deeper than happiness, and why she left a culture that had become toxic for her. They also discuss New York vs. Tennessee, loneliness in modern life, the power of prayer, and how to let God define who you are instead of the world. Follow and subscribe to Tomi Lahren Is Fearless on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, leave a 5-star rating, and share this episode with someone who needs hope, truth, and encouragement today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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