# From Unpaid Intern to President

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Podcast: [Titans of the Trades | Straight-Talk for Scaling Your Construction Business](https://stenobird.com/podcast/titans-of-the-trades-straight-talk-for-scaling-your-construction-business-6377052)
Published: 2025-12-10T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What does it take to scale a business from $3 million to $75 million? And what lessons can construction leaders take from that journey? In this episode of Titans of the Trades, Ryan Englin sits down with Eric Watkins, President of Abstrakt Marketing. Eric started as an unpaid intern and climbed his way to the top, helping lead massive growth along the way. Together, Ryan and Eric dive into why recruiting is marketing, how outbound sales applies directly to hiring in the trades, and why cultur...

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