# AI Grows Up

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Podcast: [Tik and Chris](https://stenobird.com/podcast/tik-and-chris-7769199)
Published: 2026-07-02T03:50:31+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1790

## Resource

Chris and Pratik open with Claude Tag, Siri's new screen-awareness, and Google's shift to "go do the work" search agents — and land on the real question: if AI is about to live inside every app you already use, was building your own agent ever the point? Then it gets messier: the Fable 5 / Mythos 5 export-control saga, a competitor-authored jailbreak report, and a government that acted on it without testing anything itself. Pratik questions the incentives behind who's grading whose homework; Chris isn't so sure that's the full story. They don't land on an answer — and don't force one. Closes with an unexpected pivot: the Pope's letter on AI and human dignity. Yes, really.

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