# Rethinking the Funnel: How B2B Growth is Being Rewritten by AI

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Podcast: [Thrivecast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/thrivecast-6591286)
Published: 2025-11-22T14:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.hybridgtm.com/p/rethinking-the-funnel-how-b2b-growth
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John Neeson — the mind behind the legendary B2B Demand Waterfall and Co-Founder of SiriusDecisions — joins Gururaj Pandurangi to trace the evolution of how companies create, measure, and grow demand. From pioneering the alignment between sales and marketing to forecasting how AI will reshape the buyer’s journey, John shares lessons that defined two decades of B2B go-to-market strategy. Key Insights * Origins of SiriusDecisions. John built Sirius to answer a simple CEO question: “I gave you $20M — what did I get back?” The firm transformed marketing from art into measurable science. * The evolution of the Demand Waterfall. What began as a simple lead definition matured into the classic, revenue, and demand-unit waterfalls — each mapping closer to real buying behavior. * From creating demand to activating it. Modern marketing’s challenge isn’t generating leads; it’s recognizing and activating intent across fragmented digital journeys. * Buyers are in control. Two decades ago, buyers met sales to learn. Today, they research independently and expect sellers to be context-ready from the first touch. * Product-led and sales-led models are merging. The best companies balance both — using data to harness existing demand while creating new demand through storytelling. * Alignment equals profitability. SiriusDecisions data showed organizations with tight sales–marketing alignment grew faster and retained more customers. * Analytics is the new OS. As AI transforms digital channels, analytics becomes the engine of visibility, efficiency, and retention. * AI is the next frontier. “We won’t be talking about digital marketing — it’ll all be AI marketing,” John predicts, as discovery shifts from Google search to AI interfaces. Actionable Takeaways * Redefine the funnel. Move from coun…

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