# Threshold Conversations | Feminism in the Wild with Ambika Kamath and Melina Packer

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Podcast: [Threshold](https://stenobird.com/podcast/threshold-424718)
Published: 2026-02-17T10:00:00+00:00
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How much of what we know about animals is actually just an assumption? From dominant males and passive females to stigmas around same-sex sexual behavior, ideas from our human world influence our understanding of the nonhuman one. Ambika Kamath is a behavioral ecologist and evolutionary biologist, and Melina Packer is a scholar of race, gender and sexuality. Together they wrote the book Feminism in the Wild: How Human Biases Shape Our Understanding of Animal Behavior . They join us to unpack some long-held ideas in biology, explain why these ideas are so powerful, and imagine how we might open our eyes to animal behavior that defies our expectations. Threshold is nonprofit, listener-supported, and independently produced. You can support Threshold by donating today . To stay connected, sign up for our newsletter . Credits: Threshold Conversations is produced by Sam Moore. Our music is by Todd Sickafoose. Amy Martin is our host and executive producer. Resources and Links: Episode transcript Feminism in the Wild from MIT Press The paper on female birdsong by Michelle Hall and colleagues Amy’s Substack, Letters to Earthlings

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