# Your Sales Team is now a Developer

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Podcast: [Threat Talks - Your Gateway to Cybersecurity Insights](https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159)
Published: 2026-05-05T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://threat-talks.com/your-sales-team-is-now-a-developer/
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## Resource

The biggest security threat in your organization right now? Your sales team. AI coding tools have crossed into every department, and most organizations have no idea what's being built or deployed in their name. In this episode of Threat Talks, Lieuwe Jan Koning, Co-founder and CTO at ON2IT Cybersecurity, sits down with Jack Cable, CEO and Co-founder of Corridor and former lead of Secure by Design at CISA to talk about why the answer isn’t to block innovation. What's in this episode for you: The non-engineer coding problem. AI coding agents have put software creation in the hands of anyone with a laptop, and the security implications are only starting to land. Why blocking doesn't work. Teams self-provision anyway, individual accounts, zero visibility. Shadow vibe coding is far worse than sanctioned use, and organizations that block fall behind. How to actually solve it. Platform-level mitigations that prevent known vulnerability classes regardless of who wrote the code: standard auth libraries, dependency management, MFA on anything externally deployed. Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 01:41 – Where It All Started: Hacking the Air Force at 18 06:25 – What Jack Found: 350 Vulnerabilities Across Google, Facebook and the DoD 12:24 – How AI Coding Agents Changed Software Development 17:04 – How Secure Is the Code That AI Coding Agents Write 28:53 – What CISOs Need to Know About Agentic AI Security 31:50 – Next Week and Wrap-Up Key topics covered How software development has changed with the arrival of AI coding agents Why sanctioned AI coding use requires visibility into tools, licenses, and configurations What the right guardrails look like for engineering teams vs. non-technical teams Resources Corridor: https://corridor.dev Threat Talks – New US Cyber Strategy [URL] Thre…

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