# Breached OT Kills. Zero Trust 2.0 Doesn’t

Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159/breached-ot-kills-zero-trust-2-0-doesn-t
Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159/breached-ot-kills-zero-trust-2-0-doesn-t.md
Podcast: [Threat Talks - Your Gateway to Cybersecurity Insights](https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159)
Published: 2026-03-31T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://threat-talks.com/breached-ot-kills-zero-trust-2-9-doesnt/
Audio file: https://2.gum.fm/op3.dev/e/pdcn.co/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/pdst.fm/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/media.transistor.fm/755924f9/bb1dfd8c.mp3
Processing state: not_requested
JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159/episodes/breached-ot-kills-zero-trust-2-0-doesn-t
Duration seconds: 1011

## Resource

Not long ago, OT environments were isolated islands. Control systems ran independently, accessible only through dedicated workstations requiring physical presence. The factory floor and the IT department might as well have been on different planets. That world is gone. Today’s OT environments are connected. Remote access from IT workspaces to control systems is routine. And this is just the start. And it changes everything about how to secure them. In this episode of Threat Talks, Lieuwe Jan Koning and Rob Maas break down what happens when OT vs IT security models collide – and why IT/OT convergence is forcing organizations to rethink how they protect industrial environments. Patching is difficult, availability is critical, and legacy models like the Purdue model leave gaps attackers can move through. So, what does work? Zero Trust. If your organization relies on industrial systems, this is the shift you need to understand. Timestamps 00:00 – OT vs IT Security Introduction and Key Differences 00:57 – IT OT Convergence Is Changing OT Security 04:49 – What OT vs IT Security Looks Like in Practice 10:13 – Why IT and OT Teams Struggle to Communicate 12:18 – How Zero Trust Applies to OT Environments 14:21 – How to Secure OT with Zero Trust and IT OT Convergence Key Topics Covered How OT vs IT security requires a different approach in practice Why IT OT convergence is increasing risk across factory environments How limitations like patching and availability shape OT security decisions How Zero Trust segmentation can reduce risk without disrupting operations Resources Threat Talks: https://threat-talks.com/ ON2IT (Zero Trust as a Service): https://on2it.net/ AMS-IX: https://www.ams-ix.net/ams Threat Talks episode on Hack the Boat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa0TJ3eRTCw B…

## Actions

- request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159/episodes/breached-ot-kills-zero-trust-2-0-doesn-t/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode.
- read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159/breached-ot-kills-zero-trust-2-0-doesn-t.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource.

A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed.

## Transcript

Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.