# Vultisig Building for a THORChain, Rujira and Agentic Future | Podcast #216

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Podcast: [THORChain Livestream Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/thorchain-livestream-podcast-6662512)
Published: 2026-07-11T17:18:59+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Denny and paaao discuss everything about Vultisig: what it is, its token, future plans, and much more. Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required. Timestamps: 00:00:00 Intro 00:03:00 Paaao starts 00:04:00 What is Vultisig? 00:05:00 37 chains supported — Vultisig was born from THORChain MPC/TSS technology 00:06:00 Every Vultisig user is a mini THORChain ecosystem 00:08:00 When will we have a proper referral fee on all swaps, not just THORChain? 00:12:00 What API is used? Is it OpenOcean for Solana meme coins? 00:13:00 Is there an MEV component? 00:14:00 How are swaps routed for maximum efficiency? 00:17:00 How is Vultisig positioned to take advantage of everything that's coming? 00:19:00 bRUNE support and the acquisition of Station Wallet 00:20:00 Station is being converted into a fully agentic wallet! 00:21:00 CCL on Rujira makes a great case for agentic use 00:23:00 As soon as THORChain came back, people started swapping again 00:25:00 MiCA consequences — people fleeing to self-custody 00:26:00 How do we capture these users? 00:28:00 Help us connect to communities, THORChads! Private keys are toxic! 00:30:00 We have a sophisticated SDK that we are hardening — Hermes Agent 00:31:00 Your agent can interact with other agents 00:33:00 Vultisig is a return to proper self-custody 00:35:00 Vultisig is building for the future 00:38:00 Our goal is to make the wallet super easy — please let us know what can be improved! 00:39:00 Self-hosting a Vultisig server could be powerful for businesses 00:42:00 Could the VULT token become a universal in-app gas token? 00:43:00 We'd need more centralized account…

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