# How Phoenicians Turned Into Carthaginians But Forgot Their Genes, or, The Other Phoenician Scheme

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Podcast: [This Week in the Ancient Near East](https://stenobird.com/podcast/this-week-in-the-ancient-near-east-3467259)
Published: 2025-07-21T11:19:38+00:00
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We like to think of the Carthaginians as the western extension of the Phoenicians, but Punic genetics suggest that they were primarily descended from local peoples. Did that create identity crises for them? How about for their elephants?

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