# Why we're in the dark on defence under Andy Burnham

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Podcast: [This Is Why](https://stenobird.com/podcast/this-is-why-1011487)
Published: 2026-06-25T16:15:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.skynews.com
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It's all a little awkward. Sir Keir Starmer is set to deliver his defence spending proposals to NATO next month, despite having lost both his job and his defence secretary. But the outgoing PM seems determined to push through with his plans just days before Andy Burnham potentially moves into Downing Street. The man whose resignation helped hasten Starmer's departure - ex-defence secretary John Healey - recently held talks with Burnham. But what do we know about our expected new prime minister's position on military spending? Will he prove to be more of a hawk or a dove when it comes to the defence of the realm? Niall is joined by Sky’s political correspondent Rob Powell and military analyst Sean Bell.

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