# Live to Play, Play to Live

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Podcast: [This Is Heartbeat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/this-is-heartbeat-6734551)
Published: 2026-04-01T15:15:00+00:00
Episode link: https://friends-of-heartbeat.mykajabi.com/podcasts/this-is-heartbeat/episodes/2149187195
Audio file: https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/medias/2149187195.mp3
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Duration seconds: 1640

## Resource

Conventional thinking says "you must really work at relationships...they are tough." But what if we have that wrong? What if the answer is to introduce more "play" into our relationships? In Episode 59 Landon Saunders explores the big question -- What Are Relationships For. And his suggestion is that relationships are for pure, unmitigated joy.

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