# 391: What if you forgave the neo-Nazi who killed your father?

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Podcast: [This Is Actually Happening](https://stenobird.com/podcast/this-is-actually-happening-314652)
Published: 2026-01-27T08:00:00+00:00
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After a white supremecist killed his father at a Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee, Pardeep Singh Kaleka pairs up with a former neo-Nazi to teach students about overcoming hate and finding forgiveness.    Today’s episode was produced in collaboration with Pauline Bartolone, and was funded in part by UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center , as part of its "Spreading Love Through the Media" initiative, supported by the John Templeton Foundation .  Pauline can be reached at paulinebartolone.org and on Instagram @pmbartolone  Today’s episode featured Pardeep Singh Kaleka. If you’d like to reach out to Pardeep, you can email him at Pardeep.S.Kaleka@gmail.com .  Pardeep is on Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn @pardeepsinghkaleka Pardeep is the Clinical Director at Mental Health America–Wisconsin, a senior anti-hate advocate, and co-author of The Gift of Our Wounds . After losing his father in the 2012 Oak Creek Sikh Temple attack, he became a leading voice for community healing, resilience, and faith. With over 25 years of experience in law enforcement, education, mental health, and supporting hate-crime survivors, Pardeep has served with the U.S. Department of Justice–CRS and led the Interfaith Conference. He specializes in communal trauma and helps public health professionals, educators, and law enforcement develop community-oriented strategies to address conflict, hate, and rising targeted violence. Producers: Whit Missildine, Andrew Waits, Pauline Bartolone   Content/Trigger Warnings: Mass shooting / gun violence, Murder / death, Hate crime / domestic terrorism, White supremacy / neo-Nazi ideology, Racism / religious persecution (anti-Sikh bias; Islamophobia mentioned), PTSD / trauma responses, Suicidal ideation (students mention feeling su…

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