# #125 Bridging Gaps
feat. Fire Chief Marty Cornilson

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Podcast: [Third Alarm Cowboys Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/third-alarm-cowboys-podcast-5622138)
Published: 2026-06-22T10:30:00+00:00
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Thirdalarmcowboys.com Supplements- 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys Cigars- paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys promo code: TAC The podcast episode features a conversation between Heath Meredith and Marty Cornilson, a fire chief with 31 years of experience. They discuss topics such as fire season preparations, recruitment and retention challenges, leadership styles, and the changing dynamics of the fire service. Marty shares insights on bridging the gap between fire chiefs and firefighters, addressing staffing struggles, and promoting a positive fire service culture. The conversation covers a range of topics related to fire service leadership, training, and organizational culture. It emphasizes the importance of probationary periods, accountability, community engagement, and the need for innovative and practical training methods. The conversation also highlights the significance of understanding the mindset of firefighters and the need for effective leadership and management practices. Takeaways Fire season preparations are underway in California and Texas, with a focus on pre-deployment and red flag warnings. Recruitment and retention challenges in the fire service are influenced by factors such as competition from larger departments, changing demographics, and the need to adapt leadership styles to accommodate diverse personalities. The role of leadership in the fire service is evolving, with an emphasis on understanding and accommodating different learning styles and personalities, as well as promoting a positive fire service culture. Probationary periods are crucial for identifying and addressing issues with new firefighters early on. Community engagement is essential for building trust and support for the fire service. Innovative and practical training methods are nece…

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