# #121 Us vs Them

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Podcast: [Third Alarm Cowboys Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/third-alarm-cowboys-podcast-5622138)
Published: 2026-05-01T15:20:32+00:00
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## Resource

thirdalarmcowboys.com The podcast episode covers a range of topics related to the fire service, including supporting a mentor's political campaign, an upcoming fire summit, hands-on training, the 'us versus them' mentality, financial challenges, and salary disparities in leadership positions within the fire service. The conversation delves into the prevalent 'us versus them' mentality in the fire service, highlighting the impact of this divide on the relationship between firefighters and fire chiefs. It also emphasizes the importance of a mission-focused mindset for both firefighters and fire chiefs, offering insights into the challenges and solutions for addressing these issues. Takeaways Real-life situations in the fire service Impact of leadership and promotions on firefighters Us versus them mentality in the fire service The importance of a mission-focused mindset Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 12:27 Us Versus Them Mentality in the Fire Service 19:30 Financial Challenges and Disparities in the Fire Service 26:55 Salary Disparities and Leadership Positions 33:04 The Role of Fire Chiefs 46:36 Mission-Focused Mindset Protein and Energy Drinks: 1stphorm.com/thirdalarmcowboys Cigars- paynemason.com/thirdalarmcowboys promo code: TAC

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