# The U.S. state that could have been a Black utopia

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Podcast: [Think from KERA](https://stenobird.com/podcast/think-from-kera-875208)
Published: 2026-06-19T17:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

After the promises of Reconstruction began to wither, Black Americans searched for freedom in radically different locales. Caleb Gayle is a journalist, author and professor at Northeastern University, and he is also a contributing writer at The New York Times Magazine. He joins guest host John McCaa to tell the story of Edward McCabe, who made it his life’s work to set up a Black state in Oklahoma. His book is “ Black Moses: A Saga of Ambition and the Fight for a Black State .” This episode airs December 10th, 2026. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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