# Do nukes still prevent wars?

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Podcast: [Think from KERA](https://stenobird.com/podcast/think-from-kera-875208)
Published: 2026-07-09T17:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Nuclear weapons have long been thought to be deterrents for global warfare– are they still? Rose Gottemoeller is William J. Perry Lecturer at the Center for International Security and Cooperation and a Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. From 2016 to 2019, she served as Deputy Secretary General of NATO. She joins guest host Paige Phelps to discuss why nuclear weapons are largely ineffective in stopping sustained attacks by cheap drones and why countries who want to acquire nukes should reconsider that strategy. Her article in Foreign Affairs is “ The Strange Defeat of Nuclear Deterrence .” Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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