# They Call Us Hoppers

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Podcast: [They Call Us Bruce](https://stenobird.com/podcast/they-call-us-bruce-894635)
Published: 2026-03-06T05:01:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1826

## Resource

Jeff and Phil welcome back Daniel Chong, director of the Disney/Pixar animated feature Hoppers . They discuss the silly, unlikely pitch for "Penguin Avatar" that actually got the green light; centering an angry Asian young woman at the heart of this adventure (and why this movie arrives amidst an incredible moment for animated Asian movie heroines); and all the fun world-building that goes into crafting a story set in the animal kingdom. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making Hoppers . This episode is sponsored by Chinese Republicans , a new play from Roundabout Theatre Company.

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