# 520: Integrating The Family Into Child Therapy with Dafna Lender Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/therapy-chat-215844/520-integrating-the-family-into-child-therapy-with-dafna-lender Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/therapy-chat-215844/520-integrating-the-family-into-child-therapy-with-dafna-lender.md Podcast: [Therapy Chat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/therapy-chat-215844) Published: 2026-03-25T20:00:49+00:00 Episode link: https://therapychatpodcast.com Audio file: https://audio2.redcircle.com/episodes/f449e365-1f07-4c19-a95b-1aa1d19e1d9d/stream.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/therapy-chat-215844/episodes/520-integrating-the-family-into-child-therapy-with-dafna-lender Duration seconds: 3078 ## Resource Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week I’m sharing my conversation with attachment expert and author Dafna Lender about how she works with parents to help their children. As a family therapist, Dafna explains she spends at least 50% of the work with the parents, learning about what they experience physiologically and emotionally during stressful interactions with their kids. She talks about how some of the perfectionistic modern ideas about parenting make things more difficult for families, and how she uses EMDR and Somatic Experiencing in her work with parents. Dafna, the author of “Integrative Attachment Family Therapy: A Clinical Guide to Heal and Strengthen the Parent-Child Relationship through Play, Co-regulation, and Meaning-Making” shares about her Integrative Attachment Family Therapy (IAFT) model and her “Anti-Perfect Parent” program. Dafna Lender, LCSW, is an international speaker, trainer, and author with over 30 years of experience working with children and families. She is a certified trainer and supervisor in both Theraplay and Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy (DDP) and specializes in helping families heal from trauma and attachment disruptions. Resources Mentioned: Dafna’s Website: www.dafnalender.com Find Dafna's book, " Integrative Attachment Family Therapy: A Clinical Guide to Heal and Strengthen the Parent-Child Relationship through Play, Co-regulation, and Meaning-Making" here . More Resources: Therapists - if you're ready to allow yourself to be held in nature with a community of like-minded therapists, my Mind, Body + Soul Healing Retreat for Therapists in Tulum, Mexico is here . November/December dates are on the website now! Also, new members are being accepted in the Trauma Therapist Network membership community. Learn more here . Therapists… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/therapy-chat-215844/episodes/520-integrating-the-family-into-child-therapy-with-dafna-lender/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/therapy-chat-215844/520-integrating-the-family-into-child-therapy-with-dafna-lender.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.