# 155: Battling ASU's Racist DEI Training (with Owen Anderson & Stacey Skankey)

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Published: 2026-02-23T10:00:00+00:00
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Welcome to the Theology & Ethics podcast! In this episode, the Kirkwood Center Team (& guests Owen Anderson & Stacey Skankey) discuss Owen’s legal case against the university regarding its racist DEI training, and the dangerous legal precedent the university is trying to set. If you’d like to get in touch with us, give us a call or send us a text at (909) 493-7799, or send us an email at contact@kirkwoodcenter.org . Visit us on our website at kirkwoodcenter.org . Join the theology & ethics conversation & see more from The Kirkwood Center on our socials! Facebook: https://shorturl.at/R3NKg Instagram: https://shorturl.at/UNceb X/Twitter: https://t.ly/Gt8f8 YouTube: https://t.ly/LDbWO Substack: https://t.ly/wBABv Website: https://kirkwoodcenter.org/ If you enjoyed this episode, please take a second to leave us a review on your podcast app of choice. If this episode made you think of someone you know, shoot them a link! #owenanderson #staceyskankey #goldwaterinstitute #ASU #DEI #racism #marxism #legislation #whiteness #arizonasupremecourt #theologyandethicspodcast #kirkwoodcenter #church #christianity #theology #ethics #bible CHAPTERS & TIMECODES 00:00:00-Introduction 00:02:39-The Story of the Case 00:07:06-Legal Precedent For the Case 00:14:14-The Relevant Arizona Law 00:21:38-The Opposing Legal Counsel 00:26:09-The Ideology Behind DEI 00:35:01-Should Universities Have Opinions? 00:38:56-What is ASU Trying to Protect? 00:46:27-The Problem With The Training Itself 00:50:56-The Role of Marxism 00:52:37-What’s Next For the Case 00:55:15-Conclusion

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