# 152: Annihilationism vs. Eternal Conscious Torment (with Chris Date) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/theology-ethics-7032461/152-annihilationism-vs-eternal-conscious-torment-with-chris-date Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/theology-ethics-7032461/152-annihilationism-vs-eternal-conscious-torment-with-chris-date.md Podcast: [Theology & Ethics](https://stenobird.com/podcast/theology-ethics-7032461) Published: 2026-01-26T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/theology-ethics-from-the-kirkwood-center/2490223 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/291813/2490223/theology-ethics-from-the-kirkwood-center/2026_01_26_07_41_19_ab0ef852-7418-40f2-a335-7257262a7014.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/theology-ethics-7032461/episodes/152-annihilationism-vs-eternal-conscious-torment-with-chris-date Duration seconds: 6312 ## Resource Welcome to the Theology & Ethics podcast! In this episode, the Kirkwood Center Team (& guest Chris Date) discuss annihilationism as a view in competition with eternal conscious torment, its history, and what it means for life after death and Jesus’ return. If you’d like to get in touch with us, give us a call or send us a text at (909) 493-7799, or send us an email at contact@kirkwoodcenter.org . Visit us on our website at kirkwoodcenter.org . Join the theology & ethics conversation & see more from The Kirkwood Center on our socials! Facebook: https://shorturl.at/R3NKg Instagram: https://shorturl.at/UNceb X/Twitter: https://t.ly/Gt8f8 YouTube: https://t.ly/LDbWO Substack: https://t.ly/wBABv Website: https://kirkwoodcenter.org/ If you enjoyed this episode, please take a second to leave us a review on your podcast app of choice. If this episode made you think of someone you know, shoot them a link! #chrisdate #annihilationism #eternalconscioustorment #hell #afterlife #eternaldamnation #sin #dualism #soul #death #theologyandethicspodcast #kirkwoodcenter #church #christianity #theology #ethics #bible CHAPTERS & TIMECODES 00:00:00-Introduction 00:06:24-The History of Annihilationism 00:15:21-Defining Annihilationism 00:22:30-Immortality & the Death of the Soul 00:43:11-Eternal vs. Permanent Punishment 00:56:52-The Nature of the Resurrection of the Wicked 01:08:17-Revelation & The Nature of the Punishment 01:19:23-Why Do We Assume the Soul is Eternal? 01:22:48-Is Annihilation Better or Worse Than Eternal Torment? 01:36:47-What Is the Role of This Debate? Welcome to the Theology & Ethics podcast! In this episode (Volume 1 of a 6-part series on modern Paganism) the Kirkwood Center Team (& guests Carl Teichrib & Joshua Farris) discuss the… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/theology-ethics-7032461/episodes/152-annihilationism-vs-eternal-conscious-torment-with-chris-date/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/theology-ethics-7032461/152-annihilationism-vs-eternal-conscious-torment-with-chris-date.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.