# #532 Rafael de Cárdenas | Skims, Nike, Cartier: the designer who refuses to please (Designer, Creative Director, and Founder of Rafael de Cárdenas, Ltd.)

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Published: 2026-06-02T03:00:00+00:00
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👉 Mon sponsor du mois | Shopify📧 Ma newsletter | S'abonner🖥️ Ma chaîne YouTube | S'abonner— Thanks to Rafael for stopping by TheBoldWay! Rafael de Cárdenas is one of the most singular designers of his generation. Born and raised in New York, he started out in fashion at Calvin Klein before branching into production design, architecture, and then interior design, almost by accident, as he likes to put it. Since 2006, he has led his studio, Rafael de Cárdenas, Ltd., an international practice spanning residential and commercial interiors, architecture, furniture, art advisory, and brand development, across the U.S., Europe, and Asia. Nike, Kenzo, Baccarat, Skims, Cartier, Piaget, Nordstrom, AWAKE NY... his work was the subject of a monograph published by Rizzoli in 2017. He's here to tell us why he never gives people what they want, how algorithms drag culture down to the lowest common denominator, what America without guardrails produces at its best and its worst, "it gives you Andy Warhol, it also gives you Donald Trump", and why, at 51, gratitude has become the true center of his life. Timeline 05:35 — Introduction: who Rafael de Cárdenas is, and his zigzag path from fashion to interior design, "almost by accident" 10:20 — 1980s New York: growing up concealing his homosexuality, and how that lens sharpened his read on culture 14:40 — Algorithms vs. culture: Madonna vs. Taylor Swift, the end of taste-makers, the reign of the lowest common denominator 24:30 — The Calvin Klein years: branding, the spectacle of fashion, and the realization that pushed him to leave clothing behind 28:30 — UCLA, Sylvia Lavin and Greg Lynn: Bilbao, the Muschamp essay, and the birth of his design thinking 36:00 — America without guardrails vs. French rigor: "anything is possible," the best and…

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