# Your Foundation Guy Is Probably Lying to You — How Not to Get Ripped Off | Stephen Burton

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Podcast: [The Zach and Pat Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-zach-and-pat-show-6732613)
Published: 2026-07-10T19:33:23+00:00
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## Resource

Stephen Burton is the owner and educator of Foundation Rescue in St. Louis, with 35 years and $100M in foundation repairs behind him. In this episode he pulls back the curtain on an industry with no licensing test and no standards: why homes really fail (gutters and downspouts, not "your walls falling"), how to avoid getting ripped off, the $175 inspection he’ll do before you spend $30,000, the difference between clients and customers, and the faith and integrity that turned him from "part of the problem" into an advocate. Equal parts homeowner survival guide and a lesson in doing business the right way. What you’ll take away • The real cause of most foundation problems — and the two things every homeowner should do today. • How to tell a good foundation contractor from a predatory one (licensing, insurance, the 3-day rescission). • Why "fixing the crack" without fixing the cause guarantees a new crack. • Clients vs. customers — and why treating people as clients wins long-term. • Owning your mistakes: how he went from "the problem" to reforming the industry. Pull-quotes • "Your walls do not fall. That’s the scare tactic." • "Clients buy information. Customers buy products." • "If you don’t know who the idiot is at the poker table, it’s you." • "He was a slow learner, but he figured it out." (his tombstone)

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