# Good Songs Will Only Take You So Far | Wes Hoffman

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Podcast: [The Zach and Pat Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-zach-and-pat-show-6732613)
Published: 2026-07-29T22:28:59+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/thezachandpatshow/3033558
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Everything in the block below goes straight into the YouTube description field. Wes Hoffman has written over 50 songs in a year, toured 924 Gilman, and built two music communities from an Instagram account. He also says the thing most musicians don't want to hear: good songs will only take you so far. In this episode we get into what actually grows a band, why Spotify monthly listeners are a lie, and how a divorce, a closed business and a new job inside three months turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to him. Wes Hoffman is a St. Louis singer-songwriter, frontman of Wes Hoffman and Friends, and the founder of 314 Punk and Frequency Midwest. New record out in October — and there's a St. Louis festival announcement coming in August.

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