# Gordon Smith (Pluribus)

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Podcast: [The Writers Panel](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-writers-panel-1063873)
Published: 2026-01-13T09:01:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/nerdistwriters/episodes/696409383a409cca49844c74
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## Resource

Writer/director Gordon Smith ( Pluribus ; Better Call Saul ) discusses what gives Pluribus legs, story as algorithm, a non-mystery mystery, some great directing advice that's really storytelling advice, parsing notes, getting sand in your eyes, and more. THE WRITERS PANEL IS A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT PRODUCTION. Follow and support the show by subscribing to Ben Blacker's newsletter, Re:Writing , where you'll also get weekly advice from the thousands of writers he's interviewed over the years, as well as access to exclusive live Q&As, meet-ups, and more: benblacker.substack.com SOCIALS: Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/benblacker.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bablacker/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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