# #147 - Paulina Stevens & Jezmina Von Thiele, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling Authors Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-witch-wave-743388/147-paulina-stevens-jezmina-von-thiele-secrets-of-romani-fortune-telling-authors Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-witch-wave-743388/147-paulina-stevens-jezmina-von-thiele-secrets-of-romani-fortune-telling-authors.md Podcast: [The Witch Wave](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-witch-wave-743388) Published: 2025-04-02T04:01:00+00:00 Episode link: https://witchwavepodcast.com/episodes/2025/4/1/147-paulina-stevens-amp-jezmina-von-thiele-secrets-of-romani-fortune-telling-authors Audio file: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/media.blubrry.com/the_witch_wave/content.blubrry.com/the_witch_wave/ROMANIAllEditFINAL.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-witch-wave-743388/episodes/147-paulina-stevens-jezmina-von-thiele-secrets-of-romani-fortune-telling-authors Duration seconds: 4782 ## Resource Paulina Stevens and Jezmina Von Thiele are the co-hosts of Romanistan , a podcast that celebrates Romani identity, culture, and tradition. They are also the co-authors of the book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling: Divining with Tarot, Palmistry, Tea Leaves, and More . Paulina Stevens is a California-based author, activist, and spiritual entrepreneur. She was the subject of the LA Times podcast Foretold , which chronicles her powerful personal journey of breaking away from her insular community and reclaiming her voice. She is also the founder of Romani Holistic , a spiritual wellness business offering intuitive readings, herbal remedies, and handcrafted holistic goods rooted in ancestral knowledge. Jezmina Von Thiele (they/she) is a writer, educator, performer, and fortune-teller whose work is rooted in their mixed Sinti Romani traditions. Their poetry, fiction, and nonfiction have been featured in  Prairie Schooner ,  The Kenyon Review Online ,  Narrative Magazine , and other publications. Based in the New Hampshire Seacoast area, Jezmina leads transformative rituals and workshops on divination, spiritual wellness, and the creative arts; provides private tarot, palm, and tea leaf readings; and offers spiritual and creative coaching, online and in person. On this episode, Paulina and Jezmina discuss Romani divination and folk magic, the history of the “G-word,” and the complex power of intuition. Pam also talks about the importance of evolving one’s language, and answers a listener question about an Election Day flame-out. Check out the video of this episode over on YouTube (and please like and subscribe to the channel while you’re at it!) Our sponsors for this episode are Woodland Magic , Ritual + Shelter , The Stormcloud Oracle , BetterHelp… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-witch-wave-743388/episodes/147-paulina-stevens-jezmina-von-thiele-secrets-of-romani-fortune-telling-authors/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-witch-wave-743388/147-paulina-stevens-jezmina-von-thiele-secrets-of-romani-fortune-telling-authors.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.