# Hope, Joy, and Are We Going To Be OK? Live in Costa Rica With Doug Abrams

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Podcast: [The Wise Effort Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wise-effort-show-4511204)
Published: 2026-04-20T10:00:00+00:00
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Dr. Diana Hill welcomes author and Idea Architects founder Doug Abrams live from Blue Spirit Costa Rica to explore how to stay grounded, joyful, and hopeful in uncertain times. Abrams shares lessons from working with leaders like the Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, and Jane Goodall, including Tutu’s guidance to “never surrender your joy,” taking the wider perspective, and resisting without “othering” opponents. He describes his in-progress book inspired by his daughter’s question, “Are we gonna be okay?” Abrams discusses living with ADHD, shame, and vulnerability in relationships, and highlights Goodall’s four reasons for hope—human intellect, nature’s resilience, young people, and the indomitable human spirit—emphasizing that hope is an action. Related Resources Get enhanced show notes for this episode Become a Wise Effort Community member Order my book, Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most , and receive special bonus gifts. Want to become more psychologically flexible? Take Diana's "Foundations of ACT" course. Diana's Events See Diana at an upcoming event Connecting With Diana Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify . Leave a 5-star review on Apple so people like you can find the show. Sign up for the free Wise Effort Newsletter. Follow Diana on YouTube , Instagram , LinkedIn , Facebook , and Diana’s website . Thanks to the team, Craig and Ashley Hiatt, and Benjamin Gould of Bell & Branch for your beautiful music. Mentioned in this episode: Business of Therapy and Coaching Make a big move in your therapy or coaching practice. Join the New Cohort Starting May 11 Wise Effort: The Business of Therapy

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