# PASTOR MATTHEW STATLER - Trauma, Suffering, and Counterfeit Healing: Psychedelics & the Gospel

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Podcast: [The Will Spencer Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-will-spencer-podcast-3324245)
Published: 2025-12-12T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://ws-podcast.flywheelstaging.com/captivate-podcast/pastor-matthew-statler-trauma-suffering-and-counterfeit-healing-psychedelics-the-gospel
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## Resource

Pastor Matthew Statler is an Army veteran with four Iraq deployments, a former cavalry scout, and a biblical counselor who knows the trauma system from the inside. After years of PTSD diagnoses, alcoholism, and failed therapeutic models, Matthew encountered a biblical theology of suffering that radically transformed his life. In this conversation, we confront the rise of the “Trauma Mindset” as a counterfeit gospel — one that dissolves responsibility, cannot handle guilt or shame, and increasingly turns to psychedelics as a false path to healing and revelation. We explore why Scripture offers a deeper, more honest account of suffering than modern psychology, how psychedelics function as a pseudo-sacrament, and why true healing requires repentance, endurance, and hope in Christ rather than therapeutic escape. This is a serious conversation for men seeking clarity, strength, and a worldview capable of bearing real suffering. 📌 Guest Links Pastor Matthew Statler X: https://x.com/StatlerMatthew Substack: https://matthewstatler.substack.com Sierra Vista Baptist Church: https://sierravista.church The Will Spencer Podcast was formerly known as "The Renaissance of Men." EXITING THE NEW AGE COURSE I spent twenty years in the New Age. This is what I learned on the way out. 13 chapters, study guide, practices inventory, 30+ book bibliography. A new section on Christian apologetics to the New Age is in production. Buy now at $29 and get the upgrade free when the price goes to $49. https://willspencer.co/exit MENTORSHIP FOR MEN I mentor men one-on-one through 12 weeks of biblical mentorship, with daily accountability. If you've built something real but you're stuck at a transition that competence alone can't solve, book a free clarity call: https://willspencer.co/mentorship CONNECT…

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