# Jay Hatfield: The $40 Trillion Debt Scare Is Wrong — Here’s What Could Send Stocks to 9,300

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Podcast: [Biz Talk Today TV](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-weekly-money-clip-6866050)
Published: 2026-08-26T03:31:00+00:00
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Is America’s debt problem really as dangerous as Wall Street makes it sound—and what could still drive the S&P 500 toward 9,300? On this episode of Hatfield Economics, host Todd M. Schoenberger sits down with Jay Hatfield, CEO of Infrastructure Capital Management and CIO of the ICAP ETFs, including $QVOL, for a wide-ranging discussion on Treasury yields, federal debt, interest rates, oil, AI stocks and where investors should be looking next. Hatfield challenges the conventional narrative surrounding the federal deficit, arguing that the more important question is whether debt and deficits remain sustainable relative to the size and growth of the U.S. economy. He also explains what the 10-year Treasury may be signaling about the Federal Reserve—and why the bond market isn't necessarily flashing the warning sign some investors fear. The conversation then turns to the market's biggest technology names. With Nvidia earnings commanding Wall Street's attention, Hatfield explains why he remains constructive on the AI leader—but reveals why Marvell Technology may offer an even more compelling opportunity, particularly as investors search for AI exposure beyond the market's most crowded trades. Could the S&P 500 still reach 9,300? Hatfield lays out what would need to happen, including the crucial role of oil prices, Treasury yields and corporate earnings. He explains why a significant decline in crude could push the 10-year yield closer to 4% and potentially create a much more favorable environment for equities. Hatfield also weighs in on gold, warning investors against confusing momentum with fundamental value, and makes the case for owning high-quality businesses at reasonable valuations rather than chasing expensive assets. Plus, Jay breaks down the strategy behind $…

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