# Dowman's Breakout & The Anthony Gordon Debate

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Podcast: [The Wayne Rooney Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wayne-rooney-show-7449317)
Published: 2026-03-16T06:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0n5jr6l
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Duration seconds: 1882

## Resource

Wayne reflects on Max Dowman’s breakthrough moment for Arsenal and explains why those first moments can stay with a player forever. He also discusses how young players should be supported, balancing the hype around them with the need to protect their development based off his own experiences at 16. Wayne also addresses the discussion around Anthony Gordon's post-match comments after Chelsea and the role sports science now plays in team selection, explaining how different the approach would have been earlier in his career under Sir Alex Ferguson. They talk about Bruno Fernandes’ influence and consistency during a difficult period for Manchester United and there's also praise for Liverpool youngster Rio Ngumoha, whose direct style and willingness to run at defenders has caught Wayne’s attention. And what does Wayne think about Arsenal’s position in the title race? And why does he believe the race is not completely settled yet?

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