# Taylor Swift and Katy Perry

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Podcast: [The Way They Were](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-way-they-were-6655435)
Published: 2026-05-26T03:00:00+00:00
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In 2015, Bad Blood turned a rumoured fallout between two pop princesses into the biggest cold war of the 2010s, Taylor Swift and Katy Perry became locked in a feud fuelled by stolen dancers, subtweets, stan armies and forensic lyric analysis. This week on  The Way They Were , Gráinne and Chantal revisit the glittery, petty, weirdly addictive feud that defined pop’s Tumblr era and ask: was any of it ever really about the dancers? To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon:  ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠  You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in  The Gossip  our exclusive Patreon group chat!  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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