# 463: Cyril Derreumaux—In the Flow

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Podcast: [The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-way-i-heard-it-with-mike-rowe-558009)
Published: 2025-12-16T10:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4868

## Resource

Mike sits down with adventurer, endurance athlete, and motivational speaker Cyril Derreumaux, a man who has spent an unusual amount of time alone with his thoughts—and the open ocean. Cyril talks Mike through his two 70-plus-day solo treks across both the Atlantic and the Pacific in a kayak. Mike and Cyril explore risk, resilience, and the fine line between careful preparation and total uncertainty. It's a conversation about discipline, humility, and why sometimes the hardest part of moving forward is learning when not to fight the current.

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