# Ep. 196 - Jason Grechanik - How Tobacco Became Poison

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Podcast: [The Universe Within Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-universe-within-podcast-1273864)
Published: 2026-06-17T12:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://jasongrechanik.com/podcast/evolving-man
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## Resource

Hey everybody! Episode 196 of the show is out. This episode is a podcast I was interviewed on called The Evolving Man Podcast hosted by Ben Goresky. Ben has a great podcast I was happy to come on his platform and speak about my work with tobacco and trees. He is involved in similar fields and so has a good knowledge of these subjects and was able to lead a really good interview and bring out some good subjects from within me. I really appreciated his style, presence and questions and I hope you gain some insight from this interview. And if this interview resonates please consider supporting his work. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy! If you enjoyed our recent episode with Robert Gourlay and would like to purchase a MEA water device ( https://meawater.com/universe ), as listeners of the show, you receive a 10% discount on all orders using the Coupon code: UNIVERSE If you enjoyed our recent episode with Dr. Nathan Bryan and are curious to try Nitric Oxide, as listeners of the show, you can receive a 10% discount on all orders from their WEBSITE at checkout by using the Coupon code: UNIVERSE To learn more about or contact Jason, visit his website at: https://NicotianaRustica.org To learn more about or contact Ben, visit his website at: https://evolvingman.com To view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_w I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in: September 1-8: Remote Online Dieta November 2-30: Sacred Valley of Peru If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do or about future retreats, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRust…

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