# Ep. 194 - Robert Gourlay - Structured Water and the Energy of Life Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-universe-within-podcast-1273864/ep-194-robert-gourlay-structured-water-and-the-energy-of-life Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-universe-within-podcast-1273864/ep-194-robert-gourlay-structured-water-and-the-energy-of-life.md Podcast: [The Universe Within Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-universe-within-podcast-1273864) Published: 2026-05-20T12:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://jasongrechanik.com/podcast/robert-gourlay Audio file: https://pdcn.co/e/static1.squarespace.com/static/56796d68841abae3f5e4fae3/t/69f33e24556b6b287ca3f602/1778758121452/194+audio+new+.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-universe-within-podcast-1273864/episodes/ep-194-robert-gourlay-structured-water-and-the-energy-of-life Duration seconds: 8144 ## Resource Hey everybody! Episode 194 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Robert Gourlay. Robert is a scientist, in, I think, the best definition of that word, someone who is an innovator, a pioneer, a philosopher, and who looks at the world through a holistic lens. He has dedicated his life to the study of water and how structured, negatively charged water supports and helps humans and life to flourish. We spoke about his background, how an NDE helped to open him to his passion for water, what structured water is and the benefits, how to improve health through water, water on a micro and macro scale, climate science, and much more. It was a fascinating conversation, and I really think Robert is doing amazing work in the field of water and life and has much wisdom to share to help to improve people’s lives on the individual and collective levels. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy! If you enjoyed this episode and would like to purchase a MEA water device ( https://meawater.com/universe ) , as listeners of the show you receive a 10% discount on all orders using the Coupon code: UNIVERSE This episode is sponsored by Real Mushrooms ( https://realmushrooms.com ) As listeners, enjoy a discount of 25% off your first order at checkout using the Discount code: UNIVERSE To learn more about or contact Robert, visit his website at: https://meawater.com & https://phion.com.au and to view the presentation Robert spoke of, click here: https://bit.ly/MEAWater To learn more about our work, visit our website: https://NicotianaRustica.org To view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_w I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-universe-within-podcast-1273864/episodes/ep-194-robert-gourlay-structured-water-and-the-energy-of-life/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-universe-within-podcast-1273864/ep-194-robert-gourlay-structured-water-and-the-energy-of-life.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.