# Ep. 183 - Thoryn Stephens - Plant Medicines, Consciousness, AI, Biology & Machines

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Podcast: [The Universe Within Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-universe-within-podcast-1273864)
Published: 2026-02-04T13:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://jasongrechanik.com/podcast/thoryn-stephens
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## Resource

Hey everybody! Episode 183 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Thoryn Stephens. Thoryn is the CEO and founder of Brain.One which is doing really interesting work in human optimization. We sat down and spoke about his life, how, as a young man, he came across huachuma in Ecuador and how that had a transformative impact on him, various other plant medicines, consciousness, BCI and AI, his work as a molecular biologist, and the future of technology. It was a really interesting conversation, and I think Thoryn has a lot of wisdom and insights to share. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy! This episode is sponsored by Real Mushrooms. As listeners, visit their website to enjoy a discount of 25% off your first order: https://www.realmushrooms.com/universe To learn more about or contact Thoryn, visit his website at: https://brain.one To learn more about our work, visit our website: https://NicotianaRustica.org To view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_w I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in: September 1-8: Remote Online Dieta November 2-30: Sacred Valley of Peru If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do or about future retreats, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.org Integration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.com Patreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithin YouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerks PayPal donation: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanik Website: https://jasongrechanik.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/JasonGrechanik Facebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodc…

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