# #71 Is There a Mind Behind the Universe? - Stephen C. Meyer

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Podcast: [The Uncertainty Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-uncertainty-podcast-7089022)
Published: 2026-02-12T19:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://mileskdonahue.substack.com/p/71-does-science-reveal-a-mind-behind
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Philosopher, author, and intelligent-design advocate Stephen Meyer joins me to discuss the arguments of his recent book, Return of the God Hypothesis: Three Scientific Discoveries that Reveal the Mind Behind the Universe . While we only got around to two of those three discoveries, our conversation was robust, engaging, and will interest both advocates and critics of Stephen's work. Check out video of our discussion on YouTube . To support the channel, do please oh please consider donating, either via PayPal or Buy Me a Coffee . Follow me on X-formerly-Twitter . EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:11 Interview with Joe Rogan 00:03:19 Stephen's basic case for God 00:12:05 Data point #1 - Origin of the universe 00:17:26 The limits of singularity theorems 00:25:45 Quantum cosmology and theories of quantum gravity 00:32:36 What if spacetime is emergent? 00:36:45 Why is a beginning more likely under theism? 00:41:22 Data point #2 - Cosmic fine-tuning 00:46:40 Why is fine-tuning unlikely under naturalism? 00:53:31 Why is fine-tuning likely under theism? 00:57:55 Technical objection: No background information 01:03:04 The multiverse hypothesis 01:08:19 Do we need a "scientific" theory of the multiverse? 01:13:20 Richard Dawkins' argument: God is complex 01:17:24 But what about evil and suffering? Get full access to Miles K. Donahue at mileskdonahue.substack.com/subscribe

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