# Ep. 44 - The City as a Classroom: A Conversation with Umbra Director Zach Nowak

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Podcast: [The Umbra Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-umbra-podcast-6315740)
Published: 2026-03-12T11:39:03+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1272

## Resource

In this episode, we discuss together with our Umbra Reps of the Spring Semester 2026 the value of Perugia as a location to the experience of students abroad. Dr. Nowak expresses his enthusiasm for an immersive Italian experience, both historically and culinarily, while also providing insight as to why Perugia makes a good home, if only for a few months.

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