# S5E19 - Deprogramming Democrats with Lisa Ekman

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Podcast: [The Two Tongues Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-two-tongues-podcast-3621016)
Published: 2025-11-10T14:30:24+00:00
Episode link: https://twotonguespodcast.podbean.com/e/s5e19-deprogramming-democrats-with-lisa-ekman/
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Duration seconds: 8024

## Resource

In this episode Kyle and Chris interview author, Lisa Ekman, about her book Deprogramming Democrats & unEducating the Elites: How I Escaped the Progressive Cult. We begin with the biography of a typical American democrat. A middle-class upbringing; graduate degrees and a career in public service; a compassionate soul who just wanted to help her fellow citizen. But then...Lisa unravels her awakening experience where the scales fell from her eyes and she finally saw the dark truth behind the political machine she supported all her life. We ask tough questions and she gives honest answers. Strap in! Buy Lisa's book on Amazon: https://a.co/d/iKR0Jvr Enjoy ;)

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