# S02E15 The Michael Jordan's of Cheese and Lawyers, Afrim and Franz/Can't save the Whale's and Gold Plated steak is Overpriced

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Podcast: [The Truth or Derek show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-truth-or-derek-show-6596669)
Published: 2025-07-07T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://Podstarzconnect.podbean.com/e/s02e15-the-michael-jordans-of-cheese-and-lawyers-afrim-and-franzcant-save-the-whales-and-gold-plated-steak-is-overpriced/
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On todays all new #podcast #episode the worlds expert (some say the Michael Jordan of #cheese) , celebrity #chef and all around #amazing guy Afrim Pristine joins our favorite top of his game in #lawyering the #brilliant Franz Borghardt to talk a little food, especially the most important one,,,, CHEESE!!! we answer the most important question, what is the best mac n cheese? a little life in the hospitality industry, a trip to the #PGA #Masters to feed golfer #RoryMcIlroy and why food makes everyone happy. we talk a little self improvement, taste testing food when its not your favorite, and accidentally not noticing #Drake is hanging in on your conversation. we also discuss how paying 20k should give you some input on dinner, whether that dinner includes eating whale or pigs feet, or possibly even #Ortolan, #FoisGras or a 1000 year old egg. a $1400 gold plated steak, a $3200 bottle of balsamic vinegar, a poker game where $500 cant get you a seat (when #NFL alumni are playing), and having someone introduce you to Jordan as The Jordan of cheese, Indian food, social media, French and Italian cheese greatness, education and so much more on an all new Truth or Derek Show #news #podcasting #breakingnews #crime #truecrimepodcast #truecrimecommunity #truefacts #explore #livestream #news #quotes #reaction #subscribe #trending #update #youtube #interview #interviews

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