# Buying a 25-Year-Old Bookkeeping Firm | Ming Lim & Bryan Ma Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-50498/buying-a-25-year-old-bookkeeping-firm-ming-lim-bryan-ma Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-50498/buying-a-25-year-old-bookkeeping-firm-ming-lim-bryan-ma.md Podcast: [The Truth About Financial Independence for Canadians](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-50498) Published: 2026-06-05T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/erwinszeto/episodes/Buying-a-25-Year-Old-Bookkeeping-Firm--Ming-Lim--Bryan-Ma-e3kbo9a Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/10492c5fc/podcast/play/121020138/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-4%2F425536899-44100-2-51a12e30fdc36.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-50498/episodes/buying-a-25-year-old-bookkeeping-firm-ming-lim-bryan-ma Duration seconds: 4670 ## Resource In January 2026, Ming Lim and Bryan Ma closed on AccounTrain, a 25-year-old bookkeeping firm based in Ottawa with clients across Canada. They beat out five other offers. They paid 1.3 times annual revenue. They spent almost two years searching for the right deal. Ming is the managing partner of Volition Properties, where his team has helped Canadians transact on more than $300 million of Toronto investment real estate. Bryan spent 20 years in Canadian financial services. He's a CPA, a CFA, and holds an MBA. He worked at three of the biggest professional services firms in the country and most recently at Intact Insurance in mergers and acquisitions. In this conversation, we cover: Why these two real estate operators are buying a business instead of more rentals How they sourced AccounTrain through Poe Group and a buy-side community called Village Wealth The difference between bookkeeping and full accounting firms, and why the simpler business won How multiples in this industry actually work (1.2 to 2.5 times revenue depending on quality) Why vendor take-back mortgages are standard in business sales, even though they're rare in Canadian real estate The seller's 25 years of institutional knowledge that was kept entirely in one person's head How Bryan and Ming approached due diligence with Bryan's M&A background as the advantage The lifestyle case for a business over a rental portfolio What they're modernizing now that they own it (CRM, workflow management, AI tools) Practical advice for small business owners with messy books This episode is part of TAFI's coverage of the great wealth transfer from retiring boomers to the next generation of Canadian operators. If you're an active real estate investor looking at what's next, this is the playbook. 📩Connect with Ming and… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-50498/episodes/buying-a-25-year-old-bookkeeping-firm-ming-lim-bryan-ma/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-truth-about-financial-independence-for-canadians-50498/buying-a-25-year-old-bookkeeping-firm-ming-lim-bryan-ma.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.