# The Right and Wrong Lessons From ‘Backrooms’ and ‘Obsession’

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Podcast: [The Town with Matthew Belloni](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-town-with-matthew-belloni-5195688)
Published: 2026-06-02T01:08:00+00:00
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Matt is joined by Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw to discuss what movie studios should learn from the remarkable weekend at the box office, whether this is really like the '70s all over again in Hollywood, the unique timing as 'The Mandalorian and Grogu' struggles at the box office, and more (02:01). Matt finishes the show with a prediction for the 2026 NBA Finals ratings (27:58). Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Lucas Shaw Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Matt Pevic Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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