# “It now begins with 4 vs 13”

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Podcast: [The Tony Kornheiser Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-tony-kornheiser-show-613087)
Published: 2026-03-19T13:39:00+00:00
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## Resource

Tony closes out bracket week by getting picks from Bob Ryan - along with a discussion about what constitutes an actual upset, Jeff Ma, and Greg Garcia, and Tony closes out the show by opening up the Mailbag.Songs : Sons of Town Hall “Antarctica” ; “The Lion’s Paw” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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