# PayPal’s Max Levchin on Donald Trump, Elon Musk and mega-IPOs

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Podcast: [The Times Tech Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-times-tech-podcast-487766)
Published: 2026-07-02T23:01:00+00:00
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## Resource

Affirm CEO, PayPal co-founder, original member of the 'PayPal Mafia' Max Levchin joins Danny Fortson and Katie Prescott to talk about moral moneylending, Elon Musk, mega-IPOs and why there are so many tech bosses in Washington. As he puts it – “If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu.” Meanwhile, Anthropic has announced that Claude Fable 5 will be released again globally after the Trump administration's ban. Plus, Danny and Katie discuss the latest trend in Silicon Valley - the rise of voice AI and the death of the keyboard. Is it hot air or if we are really in a new era of "yapping, rather than tapping"? On that note, Norman, Katie's AI agent, finally (and terrifyingly), has a voice. Would you swap your keyboard for voice-to-text software? Get in touch: techpod@thetimes.co.uk Read more: Is it time to say goodbye to the keyboard? Producer: Marnie Duke Executive Producer: Priyanka Deladia Video Producer: Bronwen Latham Image: Getty Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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