# Bonus episode: The ‘secret sauce’ of success - With Octopus Energy CEO, Greg Jackson Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-times-tech-podcast-487766/bonus-episode-the-secret-sauce-of-success-with-octopus-energy-ceo-greg-jackson Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-times-tech-podcast-487766/bonus-episode-the-secret-sauce-of-success-with-octopus-energy-ceo-greg-jackson.md Podcast: [The Times Tech Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-times-tech-podcast-487766) Published: 2026-02-09T00:01:00+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/dannyinthevalley/episodes/bonus-episode-the-secret-sauce-of-success-with-octopus-energ Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/dannyinthevalley/e/69863e005ad8bc4f7ca49b6e/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-times-tech-podcast-487766/episodes/bonus-episode-the-secret-sauce-of-success-with-octopus-energy-ceo-greg-jackson Duration seconds: 2106 ## Resource Today’s episode is from The Business – The Times’ flagship podcasts covering business, finance and the economy. Octopus Energy has gone from market entrant to market leader in just 10 years. Greg Jackson, chief executive and co-founder is at the forefront of this business success story. The secret sauce? It’s nothing to do with energy - it’s the Kraken software that links the company to its customers and suppliers. So how did he do it? Why does he think 'spaghetti stacks' of ancient software are what’s holding so many businesses back? And what plans does he have to float Kraken? From memories of his failed career as a game designer, why corporate life can be addictive - and why he thinks business leaders should be optimistic in a challenging world, Dom and Katie hear his lessons from the frontline. Presenters: Dominic O’Connell, columnist and business presenter, Times Radio Katie Prescott, Technology Business Editor, The Times and host of the Times Tech Podcast Guest: Greg Jackson, CEO and co-founder, Octopus Energy Producer: Miriam Hall Senior Producer: Julia Johnson Executive Producer: Kate Ford Get in touch: thebusiness@thetimes.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-times-tech-podcast-487766/episodes/bonus-episode-the-secret-sauce-of-success-with-octopus-energy-ceo-greg-jackson/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-times-tech-podcast-487766/bonus-episode-the-secret-sauce-of-success-with-octopus-energy-ceo-greg-jackson.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.