# #849: Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating "Software" for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More

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Podcast: [The Tim Ferriss Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-tim-ferriss-show-739525)
Published: 2026-01-21T15:00:00+00:00
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Dr. Michael Levin ( @drmichaellevin ) is the Vannevar Bush Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University and director of the Allen Discovery Center. He is primarily interested in how intelligence self-organizes in a diverse range of natural, engineered, and hybrid embodiments. Applied to the collective intelligence of cell groups undergoing morphogenesis, these ideas have allowed the Levin Lab to develop new applications in birth defects, organ regeneration, and cancer suppression. This episode is brought to you by: ShipStation  shipping software: ShipStation.com/Tim AG1  all-in-one nutritional supplement:  DrinkAG1.com/Tim Our Place’s Titanium Always Pan® Pro  using nonstick technology that’s coating-free and made without PFAS, otherwise known as “forever chemicals”: FromOurPlace.com/Tim TIMESTAMPS: [00:00:00] Start [00:03:18]  The Body Electric : A Vancouver bookstore discovery that launched a career. [00:04:19] Bioelectricity 101: Your brain uses it to think; your body used it before you had a brain. [00:06:05] The lesson learned by scrambled tadpole faces that rearrange themselves. [00:08:51] Software vs. hardware: The genome is your factory settings, not your destiny. [00:11:43] Two-headed flatworms: Rewriting biological memory without touching DNA. [00:16:20] Seeing memories: Voltage-sensitive dyes reveal the body’s hidden blueprints. [00:20:12] Three killer apps for humans: Birth defects, regeneration, and cancer. [00:24:27] Cancer as identity crisis: Cells forgetting they’re part of a team. [00:25:40] The boredom theory of aging: Goal-seeking systems with nothing left to do. [00:30:09] Planaria’s immortality hack: Rip yourself in half every two weeks. [00:31:27] Manhattan Project for aging: Crack cellular cognition, everything…

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