# 170: Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos, Fascia, and Pain (with Tina Wang) Listener Favorite Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-thinking-practitioner-958450/170-hypermobile-ehlers-danlos-fascia-and-pain-with-tina-wang-listener-favorite Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-thinking-practitioner-958450/170-hypermobile-ehlers-danlos-fascia-and-pain-with-tina-wang-listener-favorite.md Podcast: [The Thinking Practitioner](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-thinking-practitioner-958450) Published: 2026-05-13T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.thethinkingpractitioner.com/e/170-hypermobile-ehlers-danlos-fascia-and-pain-with-tina-wang-listener-favorite/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/yjiwwn/TTP_79_Final_Audioaq8rz.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-thinking-practitioner-958450/episodes/170-hypermobile-ehlers-danlos-fascia-and-pain-with-tina-wang-listener-favorite Duration seconds: 3288 ## Resource 🎙 Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos, Fascia, and Pain (with Tina Wang) Listener Favorite Why do people with extra-flexible tissues often hurt more, not less? What does fascia actually look like on ultrasound in someone with hypermobility — and why did the findings surprise even the researchers? Dr. Tina Wang — a board-certified physical medicine and rehabilitation physician whose research uses ultrasound to study fascial dysfunction in hypermobile patients — joins Til and Whitney for a wide-ranging conversation about Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, the paradox of mushy tissue that won’t glide, and why the deep fascia may be where most myofascial pain actually lives. This is one of our most listened-to episodes ever — a listener favorite we’re bringing back for those who missed it and those ready for a second listen. Dr. Wang also offers a 1-hour class on hypermobility in the A-T subscription library (get a free month with code thinking: https://a-t.tv/subscriptions/) ✨ Topics covered in this episode include: • The hypermobility paradox: why people with EDS have tissue that feels “mushy” and spongy yet lacks fascial glide• The diagnostic framework for hypermobile EDS — Beighton scores, systemic manifestations, body proportions, piezogenic papules, and why 30% of the population is hypermobile without pathology• Dr. Wang’s ultrasound research: sternocleidomastoid fascia that was profoundly thicker in EDS patients than expected, and the surprising elastography findings about stiffness• Why the deep fascia — not muscle alone — appears to be the primary source of myofascial pain in 75% of cases• Ultrasound-guided fascial injections and the role of different tissue layers in pain• The connection between EDS, neurodivergence, autism, and ADHD — and Dr. Wang’s case that hypermobile EDS may be… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-thinking-practitioner-958450/episodes/170-hypermobile-ehlers-danlos-fascia-and-pain-with-tina-wang-listener-favorite/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-thinking-practitioner-958450/170-hypermobile-ehlers-danlos-fascia-and-pain-with-tina-wang-listener-favorite.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.