# Paul Louis Metzger / Christianity and Zen Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-theology-mill-5741564/paul-louis-metzger-christianity-and-zen Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-theology-mill-5741564/paul-louis-metzger-christianity-and-zen.md Podcast: [The Theology Mill](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-theology-mill-5741564) Published: 2025-02-18T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-theology-mill/episodes/Paul-Louis-Metzger--Christianity-and-Zen-e2urap9 Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/b3e2a348/podcast/play/98461929/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-1-13%2F9a392081-178c-0e66-4847-2671e3ba342e.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-theology-mill-5741564/episodes/paul-louis-metzger-christianity-and-zen Duration seconds: 3444 ## Resource Paul Louis Metzger, Ph.D., is Professor of Christian Theology & Theology & Culture, Multnomah Biblical Seminary/Jessup University, Director of The Institute for Cultural Engagement: New Wine, New Wineskins, and author and editor of numerous works, including Evangelical Zen: A Christian’s Spiritual Travels with a Buddhist Friend (2nd ed., Cascade, 2024), More Than Things: A Personalist Ethics for a Throwaway Culture (IVP Academic, 2023), Connecting Christ: How to Discuss Jesus in a World of Diverse Paths (Thomas Nelson, 2012), and A World for All? Global Civil Society in Political Theory and Trinitarian Theology (co-editor, Eerdmans, 2011). PODCAST LINKS: - Evangelical Zen (book): https://wipfandstock.com/9781666768411/evangelical-zen-second-edition/ - Paul’s Patheos Blog: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/uncommongodcommongood/ - Paul’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paul.l.metzger/ - Paul’s website: https://paullouismetzger.com/ - New Wine, New Wineskins: https://www.new-wineskins.org/ CONNECT: Website: https://wipfandstock.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/wipfandstock Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wipfandstock Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wipfandstock/ OUTLINE: (00:00) – Introduction (03:44) – Roundtable: Kyogen Carlson, Augustine, Dogen, MLK, Steinbeck (06:12) – Initial interest in Buddhism and Japanese culture (10:35) – Where evangelical and Zen meet (15:35) – Permanence vs. impermanence (19:47) – Living with ambiguity (23:22) – Holy envy (26:55) – Buddhism and the culture wars (35:40) – The life and poetry of Kobayashi Issa (40:55) – Nirvana in Kanazawa (44:54) – Inhabiting a tradition (49:10) – The object of (this) multi-faith friendship (51:25) – Book projects in the works *The Theology Mill and Wipf and Stock Publishers would like to thank… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-theology-mill-5741564/episodes/paul-louis-metzger-christianity-and-zen/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-theology-mill-5741564/paul-louis-metzger-christianity-and-zen.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.