# Episode 34: Can I Use Tarot in a Magic Spell? with Judika Illes

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Podcast: [The Tarot Podcast with T. Susan Chang](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-tarot-podcast-with-t-susan-chang-7335795)
Published: 2026-01-28T11:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1578

## Resource

In this week’s episode, prolific witchcraft author Judika Illes joins T. Susan to ask: How we can use the symbolic language of tarot to create a magic spell? Spoiler alert: it’s easier than you think.

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